• To be an officer, one must have at least a bachelor’s degree while one can be enlisted with a high school diploma. Why do people say that being an Air Force Officer is better than being an officer for the Army? You'll still be yelled at and have to get up early and run a ton, but it's night and day different from enlisted boot camp. On a carrier, the shittiest officer stateroom is better than the enlisted berthing. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts level 2. Officers will also receive higher benefits such as monthly Basic Allowance for Housing. The new hospital was so much better. For the first six months or year, he seems to be involved in doing stuff that has nothing whatsoever to do with the rating he'd hoped for. They even had their own 'preppy' clothes section in the PX. The officer corps is usually a lot more understanding than their NCO’s. Several years ago when I was an HHC 1SG, my unit was going through a rotation at the National Training Center (NTC). I attended a military academy for two years. I am a AFROTC cadet considering switching to Army.. but so many people keep telling me this is a bad idea. Officers and senior NCOs are treated like professionals, whereas junior enlisted are treated almost like children. When officers move past O-6 and into the Flag grades, they actually don't have a branch anymore, because they are GENERAL officers, as in generalists. I believe it is down to the collages that the officers train at. Reactions: Faramir. Since Germans treated captured officers better than enlisted prisoners all of them were made officers. Old Smokey. Original Question: How bad do officers treat enlisted? I (was) married to an enlisted guy and I hated all those officers' wives. Source. The officer corps is usually a lot more understanding than their NCO's. Officers will never spend more than a few years in an assignment unless they dun goofed, because they're supposed to be expanding their knowledge set. But they chose to go the enlisted route rather than the officer route. So, check out six things officers love but enlisted troops can’t stand: 6. Some enlisted personnel deal with recruiters and prepare for the ASVAB and get specialties for for which they're not suited any more than an officer may be suited for command. The reason for this is simple: there may be a time where an officer has to send one of his men into the jaws of death. The officers were treated even better, and the senior officers better than that. Officers will start out at a higher pay grade than enlisted personnel, though enlisted service members are eligible for a variety of bonuses that can be quite substantial. Google "Military Pay Charts 2017". He got moved to a TB hospital that was almost all officers and NCO, and some enlisted men with connections or someone put in a word for or something. U S Grant. 32,052 posts, read 52,189,571 times Reputation: 21549. In fact, many times their treatment is worse. You will not get any more respect or prestige among officers for going enlisted first. If you want to become a pilot, you must be an officer, so you will need to have graduated from college. Not nearly as much breaking down and being treated like a child. That as a very nice base, with a lot more focus on Quality Of Life, as compared to most Navy Bases I had served on. • Only officers can become pilots and enlisted man can never become a pilot. Whereas officers are predominantly white, have at least a bachelor’s degree, and draw incomes that place them in the middle or upper-middle class, the enlisted ranks have a higher proportion of minorities, make less money than officers, and typically enter service with only a high school diploma. They too find it difficult and quit after an enlistment. The pay: You can look this up yourself. In my time in uniform I worked for good officers, okay officers, not really all that good Officers and utter asshats. Press J to jump to the feed. I attended a 10-week school on an Air Force base once. Officers may have the ultimate responsibility for employment and performance of the units which they command, but NCO’s are the ones who ultimately achieve the tactical objective on the ground. Everyone was treated really well. I doubt if I have much growing up left to do. • Officers always start with the rank of a 2nd Lieutenant. Nov 2019 2,140 United States Aug 18, 2020 #27 … Learning about the individual branches, examining yourself, and talking to family can help you make a decision. Officers should know more about how the enlisted ranks function if … Generally you get treated better. 2. share. I did a … So why is the ratio of enlisted troops to officers declining across the US forces? Back the, don't know about now, officers were treated head and shoulders better above enlisted. r/HistoriansAnswered: Crossposts answered questions from r/AskHistorians. They can’t be shy about doing it when the situation calls. Officers make a lot more money. I have so much respect for both branches but I don't really picture myself sitting in a desk all day like most of the jobs in the Air Force. To join as an enlisted member or an officer typically depends upon what job you want to do in the Air Force. Contributor. I would have to say from my observations that the art of command is in the art of communication. I believe the RAF thought about bringing it back in the 60s-70s, I may be wrong. Thus, the fact that an enlisted man can never even aspire to be an officer (with a few exceptions) gives the officer an incredible source of authority; in the mind of the enlisted man, the officer is almost infinitely better than him. The officer-enlisted distinction is an archaic holdover from an outdated social order. Generally you get treated better. Not always true, the Commonwealth forces had NCO aircrew for a long time. pilot. Report Save. I can't believe I didn't know you were an officer's wife!" The Geneva Convention requires that POWs of an officer class be treated slightly better than captured enlisted men. The salary depends on the job, not necessarily on my education level. We were in the box or the training area slap dab in the middle of the Mojave desert. However, many people with college degrees join the military each year to become enlisted members of the special operations groups. It will be about who the individual is and how well they perform. They are generally subject to more frequent and harsher interrogations, because … You're treated more like an adult and taught how to lead more so than follow orders. This is also the reason why bootcamp is so intense: programming obedience. Ducky Formerly SNA2007. I am 43. The weaponry, soldier’s uniform, appearance and capabilities of the vehicles in the game are in line with historical facts. Mustangs won't appear any more weathered than any other officer, but they will look older. As an humorous aside, earlier I mentioned that the junior officers in my reserve unit treated cadets as little more than errand boys. 7 years ago . Remember though the Geneva Convention stipulates a lot of things that many countries do not abide by. Of course, there are also officers in the U.S. Navy, which have a higher rank than enlisted sailors. Enlisted is an MMO squad based shooter for PC and the Xbox Series X|S in World War II where you act as an infantry squad leader, tank crew or an aircraft pilot. I have to say that I got a little bit of vindication when I went back to obtain some records from my old guard unit. M. MasterBates Well-Known Member. I have been out of the military for 15 years. However, that doesn’t necessarily mean that you can join the Navy as an officer — not without first working your way up from an enlisted sailor. Youll be a little better if you go enlisted first but withen a few months youll be at the same point no matter what. Nov 27, 2007 #9 The only priors that I ever had a problem with were the one that were of the "I already paid my dues, bugger off" mentality. Dec 29, 2010 #14 If you want to fly and you can go officer now why take the long way with no guarantee. I am a watcher, and all to frequently, a speaker for the dead. But trust is important. • The pay and perks of an officer are higher than that of an enlisted man with an equivalent experience. I realize that there are good officers and bad. Taking orders from an officer we don’t trust. If a private is a few minutes late to work, all hell breaks loose. 02-07-2015, 08:01 AM Submariner : Location: Forests of Maine. If your joining just for respect and to shove it in peoples faces than dont bother joining at all, we dont want you. While some NCOs question whether an officer corps is necessary, there has always been a divide between enlisted and officers, and there will always be. Now, this isn’t meant to bash officers who were not previously enlisted. An officer will take his enlisted Soldier’s advice with a grain of salt but ultimately the decision lies with the commissioned officers in the US Army. They’re a bit older than most butterbars, they already have that sharp-as-a-KA-BAR glare, and they’re probably a bit hungover. Ad Honorem. 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