However, with that said, all of my classes for the past--nearly--two years were excellent learning experiences!As for people writing one paper and using it for every class--no way!!! on. So I am studying for knowledge. Perhaps his/her friends were less than reputable persons, lending to the old saying "you are your friends..." That's not a slight on anyone, but how could this one person have found the only five people who have anything negative to say about AMU? Who's biased now? Anyone contacted the Attorney General of their state about reports on AMU/APUS? On AMU's 8 week class schedule: Arguably he is not even a consumer of the school, but someone who is spreading hearsay information. Also, the professors at AMU all have a Master's dregee or better. Then again, that is a hazard in online classes as well as in brick and mortar universities. All of my classes have been 16 weeks long, and furthermore, as an active duty soldier, APU is extremely affordable for me due to the armys tuition assistance, which pays for almost 90% of my costs. The fact that AMU illegally copies textbooks and e-mails to students alone should raise a huge red flag(practically unreadable copies too). The professors are easy to reach (for those who actually have enrolled in a course), and the free resources available are outstanding. "They don't have the time to be full time teachers like real universities." The posters here are trying to discredit me and thus by extension discredit my posts without never addressing them. Looks like the school will be cheating us out of three weeks worth of work so they can fit in the extra work that was overlooked due to their botching of the lesson plan. in Business AnalyticsB.A. I have had professors who's names were in nearly every graduate level text that I used. If you plan on attending the school, always take screen-shots of your grade-book, at the beginning or each course, throughout the course and again at the end of each course. enrolling? One has to wonder if critical thinking was not or is encourage in their curriculum. Mostly, we did do a lot of the same work, even though it might of been a tad bit harder the traditional route which should be taken into account. book quizzes and tests. Im so sick of spending money on books that the instructors require but never even touch in the course of the semester, and then receiving less than 10% when selling books back. in Information Technology Management. In my experience, that prestigious university stigma is exploited and glorified. However, it has been my experience so far that this institution is going to make you earn it. I came to my own conclusions based on the observation of various students enrolled in AMU. Having attended Bellevue University (non-profit) and obtaining a Bachelor of Science in Business Administration and attended AMU and received a Bachelor of Arts in International Relations, I can say for certain that AMU is comparable. (Perhaps this student is one of the friends using the same paper that you wrote about!) I am also a manager over a department with 24 employees.I am also the hiring manager as well.Guess what, the stigma of online degrees is slowly dissipating.I hire both from online and brick and mortar schools from some schools such as the Ohio State and I can attest to you a not for-profit school does not make an employee more experienced or functional than an employee from a for-profit school in my experience. Is getting a degree easy? As for me, I'm off to apply to APU! I read the post and it was written by someone who had never even attended. But since AMU is an online university no traveling is required If you have military tuition assistance available there is also a lot of help available on how to use it towards tuition. The books from Wiley were difficult to use. Three classmates pulled a cut/paste from the course materials using no external thought or resources. AMU hires professors who do the jobs that students are most interested in when they finish their degrees. However, I believe that the following would be a reasonable speculation:  Based upon our observations of your writing structure, the language used, the tones conveyed, and the real-life friends referenced, we can assume any number of the above listed qualities AND since the friends mentioned are your friends, our sample must be biased in environment. I will not try to You'll see hundreds. I tell them to remove the block that will not allow registration for new classes and they have always complied. As an example, a history course will require within the 8 weeks; They have a limit of how many classes you can take a semester. I guess if someone really needs a professor to tell them what and how to think then that is their prerogative, but I can excel with a smaller amount of guidance. I have no problems putting in the time and effort to get a degree, but was the end result what you thought it would be? If it isn't, as long as it is the school that is best for you, then it's great. The instructors are extremely knowledgable and very helpful. Disregard this sour grapes poster. My only drawback is the delay in graduation caused by the administrative problems. You save time and gas without having to travel. This report is actually the only negative I could find about the school, along with one person who continually posts the same answer on Yahoo answers. Explain that! This allows the professor to address misunderstandings that a student may not even know he or she has. And the material is full material as well. Online School 8week terms 6. I love this school and the education it is providing me. I could not help but complete a rebuttal on this topic as I felt that the author is under quite a bit of misinformation. Asking questions was strictly prohibited or treated as criticism that would reflect poorly on the students' grades. They don't have the time to be full time teachers like real universities. First of all I want to point out that the 8 week condensed class does not begin to compare to a 16 week traditional semester. Corporate Advocacy Business Remediation and Customer Satisfaction Program. finals), that were often open note or open book. Also, if you seriously believe that non-profits do not care about money, you are naive. The following are from Bangor in earlier posts and highlight the level of ineptitude that is cluttering up this post. - If this were only true! Sure, some classes may be "easier" than others. Some of my quizzes are open book, just to get the material down pat. AMU uses Turnitin.com to review all papers, and they take plagiarism very seriously. You will find American My last Environmental Science class was taught by a PhD holder who also taught Environmental Policy at UMass. But, if your going to hold on to your one sided, biased, ill-educated stance that AMU is such a horrible place to attend school.....................without considering the evidence placed before you from rational students/instructors, then you have no hope. We cant exactly be online monday morning at 9 a.m. and have a live discussion. Since leaving Ive had several friends who have graduated from Radford that LOVED it, so after a few years passed and I cooled down I realized, who am I to say it is so horrible? Sincerely, APUS Student and Enraged CustomerThe above email was CCed to several other AMU administrative departments, in the hope that one of them would tell me where I could file a complaint, but nobody ever replied. I have seen some professors who lack the drive that I would prefer at a graduate level. Today in this economy it's even more competitive. So I knew it was legitimate since they were not sowing the typical signs of wanting my money more than wanting to educate me. offered? AMU teaches all its students to write well and use critical thinking in all their classes. It's not something you can just breeze by. LTmax states The questions are extremely easy but most of the time the conversation turns to an off-topic conversation. As far as open book tests are concerned, if you do not complete the reading assignments or participate in the structured discussion forums, then you will do horribly on the test. On author's comment about "...everyone else here has an agenda so intelligent readers make your own conclusions..." "One of my friends, submits the same paper for every class every semester. US News and World Report just ranked AMU / APUS #22 in the nation for the best online Bachelor's degree programs. Author was never a student, yet has an incredible arsenal of opinions. What the BBB has done to consumers for over 100 years is one of the many reasons why Ripoff Report was created. As a student do I benefit to read 10 or more answers to They make us sign up with an online site that we submit our papers to that checks for plagiarism. So, if your friend how long you spend watching a lecture video, reading a response, and how many times you Further, your only accounts are from a handful of students who are described, by you, to be the picture of dishonesty. Half of my exams have been open-book and my worst grade was on an open book test.Sounds like AMU is a better deal than my law school (or most any law school if you listen to the NYTimes). Some instructors are very involved in the posts, and they will instruct as you go along, commenting and asking questions. - This is getting redundant. That alone should discredit his opinion. B. The short They require undergrads to take a course in computer skills and online interaction as part of their core curriculum if they are weak in this area (COLL100: http://www.amu.apus.edu/academic/schedule/course/coll100), and there are multiple tutorials available on using the course system through the university. as the expense for textbooks and such? The quality is there ,in my view they simply lack in other important areas. This is a person who graduated from lauded brick and mortar universities with 4.0s and National Honor Society memberships! You literally did not have to go to class. I have always been a quick learner and someone that worked better on their own with the book. If it's anything like I have gone through, I'm sure it's nothing but easy! However, I will not attack LT's comment instead I will discuss my experience. Truly, the very nature of this notice displays incompetence on levels that other APUS Departments can only dream of. The course was 63 weeks long for Korean and culminated in the DLPT 4 (upgraded to the DLPT 5 for Korean linguists just last year) as well as an OPI to determine speaking fluency. Finally, to put to rest some of the complaints our original poster brought up... if you are looking to an online school to get your first and only degree, you are not EVER going to get your money's worth. But let me indulge in the ignorance of the posters that do everything but address the main points of my post and subsequent ones. This is a blatant lie, as I'm currently enrolled in two courses and am already scheduled to begin another two courses immediately after that, which meets APUS requirements for full-time status. Note: Many wishing to rebut my claims will cite my lack of evidence or specifics. Where else am I going to obtain that degree? The classes are challenging and the professors are readily available, even when many of them are in a different state then their students. Just last year they created mascots for both APU and AMU. Please explain your reasoning for saying this. Not only is this poor statistical practice, but it is severely lacking objectivity; something you claim to seek. Furthermore, your department makes no effort to even avoid contacting students who may not even have any form of aid at all and even regularly continues to send harassing messages to students who have previously asked to never be contacted by the Financial Aid Department ever again. degree and have been to several schools in my life, both distance learing and classroom setting. https://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/american-military-university/internet/american-military-university-amu-degree-mill-setting-the-bar-low-internet-570108. As a result of this report, I am more encouraged than ever to consider attending this school. Highly impressed with its high rankings among both traditional and online programs, I decided apply to the program. I mean if you wanna compare the staff of a University like the author did I would say there are some pretty disappointed folks at Penn State, the brick and mortar, school because their teachers and education system failed them miserably and it didnt matter how many weeks long their semesters were. Obtaining my MA in Homeland Security from AMU was anything but easy, but this was by far the most rewarding educational experience of my life. In all cases, the proctoring entity had to contact my AMU professor to establish his eligibility to act in that capacity. Good luck with that. You are slandering a school, you have never attended, and have not paid any money to because what? I have never attended AMU but have had other friends in the military that did attend this university. To combat plagiarism, many classes require that you submit your paper to turnitin.com, which analyzes the paper to see how original it is - if anything is plagiarized, it shows up in what is called an Originality Report. End of the second week of October, no card, though I do receive a letter stating that my disbursement was processed on the 1st, which did me no good without the card. Perfect examples of lesser minds are work, who takes things at face value without having to engage their minds in true critical thinking by addressing the true issues at hand. The university has been very apologetic and accomodating extending due dates to ease the pain of the transfer. those in the military. The courses are 8 weeks, but my point is it is very The truth is that is that when you graduate from a college or university, you basically don't know anything other than what you read in a book or learned from a teacher. I am planning to move on to a Ph.D. program when I finish my masters so I wanted to make sure that APU shares accreditations with the schools I am interested in applying to, and they do. 45 reviews for American Public University, 2.3 stars: 'I have attended online and hybrid classes in the past from a real school and never had any problems as I have at this place. You actually get paid by your contribution to the company or the ROI. Talk to someone who has attended the Naval War College for three months and ask them if their education was questionable. In addition, APUS has been granted approval by the Department of Education to participate in Title IV Federal Student Aid Programs. My impression when all my research was completed? Alumni network? I work hard for my students and my students work extremely hard for their grades. Thirdly, although your "notice" does contain a small error indicating that students who only receive Pell Grants or Tuition Assistance may ignore the notice, you are still covering your bases on incompetence here, since I don't receive a Pell Grant or Tuition Assistance either. (I was wary of a online school I had never heard of). I hope God heard you say it. If you are searching for the real answer to what it is like to be a student at the online university of AMU/APU, they have stated it much more eloquently than I have.To prospective students out there, I would offer this advice. It is the tendency of people to gather in groups that are similar. Hardly solid evidence, or even weak evidence. The professor and I had multiple exchanges where I had been accused of plagiarism and was failed. C.  Will you help them with traveling from where they are to the University no matter where they may be? I am not interested in the initial post. I am not here to defend the university, they require no defense. The true measure of value is whether people will use their own hard earned money to pay their own tuition, and every year more and more people do just that. If we had a lot of missions back to back the professors (for the most part) would give me a break and allow me a few extra days to finish any work that was due. I recall taking "Statistics", I really don't remember the school at which I did it, but it was a resident course...I didn't, and still don't understand one bit of it; and I'm certain that I gave it only minimal effort, and yet to my surprise I got an "A". It is also against university policy to copy and paste information from books or the internet and not cite them properly. I'm in the midst of finishing up an IT degree, and we have covered very relevant information. Right now I just want to say what I  need to say, and get the point across. The degree I now seek is in Christian Pastoral Leadership and Christian Studies. Even Yale university, MIT Havard University has online courses. They don't have the time to be full time teachers like real universities. AMU, a school I decided to pursue a graduate degree in the sciences with, showed no signs whatsoever of a degree mill... or greedy cash mill either. I was able to network with future peers/employers in the Environmental field. Since you are not a student, I believe your opinion is not valid. American Military and its counterpart American Public University recently won a national award for quality in online education" (Golden, NP). Which is why it sounds so ridiculous for you to come on a webpage that is legitimately set up to allow consumers who have been duped by a company for one reason or another, and list a bunch of fact-less claims that go unchecked. I served in the U.S. Coast Guard on Active duty for 6 years; about half of that was spent at sea and the other half on land. I seriously think you are underestimating the amount of teachers in your The main part of the curriculum is based on on-line discussion between a bunch of students who try to answer one or two selected questions posted by the instructor." This is not to say that an AMU graduate will not be employed, I'm just speaking about the people that I know. several extensive discussion post, a 10 to 12 page research paper, maybe 2 I know the quality of education that I have received. In my degree program, several classes were not available. This college that I attended, in addition to AMU is Diablo Valley College (DVC). I am a magna c*m laude graduate from the University of Georgia and a Provost's Award winner for a 3.97 GPA in a 63 week intensive Korean language course at the Defense Language Insitute in Monterey, CA. I know four people who have completed Bachelors Degrees with AMU and are having a hard time finding jobs based on their education. So for you to say online classes offer nothing close to what a "traditional" college does, you are completely wrong in this statement. The provided evidence is gathered and analyzed by the accrediting body’s external reviewers who visit the institution and write a report of their findings. The amount I paid for each class I took, with the exception of science, was $750. This is worse that the mud slinging in the political campaigns! You will be very irritated when you discover that you have failed and lost your tuition due to stupidity. Often participating or at times letting the students talk it out. All covered: Now I am in my PhD program at a brick and mortar school that also does online classes. They "sound" educated- which is more than I can say for the OP. Now students can purchase logo merchandise to show their school spirit. 1.2 Outline of the Accident Investigation 1.2.1 Investigation Organization The Japan Transport Safety Board (JTSB) designated an investigator-in-charge and three investigators on May 27, 2016 to investigate the accident. As a current graduate student in military history at APU, I read LTmaxs critique of this online school about six months ago and was disturbed by his lack of research, as well as the quality control at Ripoff Report for allowing such unsubstantiated nonsense to be published on their website in the first place.I cannot speak for others, but to prospective students out there I would like to offer my experiences so far after the three classes I have taken in the last year. the point being is that this is accredited school and i was able to enroll in north dakota state university to continue with my graduate work. You will spend time researching your papers, you will not be able to copy and paste, you will not be able to cite Wikipedia, you will be given expectations and you will have full disclosure so no surprises when grades are given. All I had were issues though and nothing worth slandering them over. semester? He was never a student, and for some reason, he felt compelled to offer his comments in which he did so extremely poorly, and his rebuttals were even worse as they failed to offer any proof to his allegations. AMU was perfect for me. The preceding statement is based, exclusively on hearsay since the individual filing the report is not a student.3. The low cost and flexibility have helped me to attend and I could not be more pleased. Hence, I have some questions: do the research yourself and dont listen to people who have never attended school. I waited a few weeks for it (mail in Alaska takes forever) but by mid September when I hadn't received it I sent them an email asking about it, they replied stating that, "Due to some unforeseen technical issues," the card wouldn't be mailed out until the first week of October. Now as a conscious living being, does this make any sense at all? discussion; are actually in-depth information or additional historical But my friend will be done way before that since he got a ton of questionable credits for being in the military. APU isnt for everyone, if you need to be baby sat in a class room and be told what to do and how to do it then go to the traditional college. just for one class at a time. 1. But if you self motivated, self disciplined, organized, and have a desire to learn APU is a good choice. He gets an A every time so I know his paper dont get read. Nothing could be further from the truth. If you're in the military and looking to earn your first degree or second or third, d**n commendable. We have the alumni corner, and they also approve. To my fellow Veterans, keeps your a**es out of AMU/APU, you have enough aggrivation dealing with the VA, don't add more to it as I did. Online course also allow the professor to see AMU/APUS is regionally accredited. I also regret that this format does not lend itself well to providing the reader with proper APA, MLA, or Turabian citation format. That amount of hours is usually around 30 hours, which is roughly around 10 classes. At a private university this can cost approximately 120 to 150 thousand dollars versus only thirty two thousand or twelve thousand at AMU. To all others reading this, as I have said before, you can count on AMU. Well, as I mentioned, I am studying for my Master's degree, so perhaps that explains the difficulty. If AMU had a rigorous program like traditional schools had then there would be no way this could be possible. I need to hear facts. With the exception of AMU, and one other CLEP test, all of my classes were in a traditional classroom setting. What does this even mean? Students who go to this college love it and will defend it to the death. As far as my credentials go, I hold a PhD from one of the most respected research universities in the world. in Transportation and Logistics Management. My last complaint is the schools use of online forums in there courses. https://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/american-military-university/internet/american-military-university-amu-degree-mill-setting-the-bar-low-internet-570108. I haven't received it yet and if it's posted on their website I haven't seen it. First of all, let me point out that I have not only attended American Military University, but have also participated in an Information Technology practicum and have graduated with a B.S. 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